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		<title>By: damian</title>
		<link>http://www.apaceofchange.com/2010/01/31/exhaling-at-educon/comment-page-1/#comment-752</link>
		<dc:creator>damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 19:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marcy said: &quot;...to what end if each person who attended doesn’t live the courage of her convictions, takes a risk, and speaks a bit of truth to power to the status quo?&quot;

I&#039;m totally with you on this, Marcy.  I think a major problem (and this crosses over a bit into the conversation Scott McLeod &amp; Russ Goerend had a few weeks ago on Twitter re: leadership in education) is that by &amp; large, the folks at these conferences tend to be classroom teachers who may be able to influence what happens in their classes, but with little overall influence in their districts.  They can stand up and speak, but if their voices go unheard (or ignored) by decision-makers who don&#039;t like or don&#039;t understand what they have to say, what other recourse do they have?  Or worse, if their own fellow teachers disregard them?  I&#039;ve always thought change like this needs to start from the ground up, but without at least a small group of like-minded folks, the lone reformer can get burnt out pretty quickly.

So how to combat this?  Dunno.  Maybe we need fewer teachers and more admins at these types of things?  I know there were some principals, AP/VPs, and maybe even a superintendent or two there this year.  What I&#039;d like to see in future years is a more even distribution of classroom teachers and admins (and other folks in support roles, like me) taking part and bringing their support back to their individual districts.  I think that might be more beneficial in the long run.

How has EduCon transformed education?  It hasn&#039;t, but I&#039;d venture that&#039;s an awfully heavy load &amp; potentially unfair question to pose to a single conference or event.  I think it does its part by providing a space for folks to discuss systems, structures, and practice in education in addition to the neat tech tools that seemed to bring us all together online in the first place.

With regard to fresh new voices, that&#039;s another point in EduCon&#039;s favor - anyone can apply to conduct a session, not just by invite only, as some conferences are.  And as far as I know the folks involved in the selection process, I have no reason to believe there is an agenda at work with regard to censoring certain topics or ideas that don&#039;t fit within a specific philosophical worldview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcy said: &#8220;&#8230;to what end if each person who attended doesn’t live the courage of her convictions, takes a risk, and speaks a bit of truth to power to the status quo?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m totally with you on this, Marcy.  I think a major problem (and this crosses over a bit into the conversation Scott McLeod &#038; Russ Goerend had a few weeks ago on Twitter re: leadership in education) is that by &#038; large, the folks at these conferences tend to be classroom teachers who may be able to influence what happens in their classes, but with little overall influence in their districts.  They can stand up and speak, but if their voices go unheard (or ignored) by decision-makers who don&#8217;t like or don&#8217;t understand what they have to say, what other recourse do they have?  Or worse, if their own fellow teachers disregard them?  I&#8217;ve always thought change like this needs to start from the ground up, but without at least a small group of like-minded folks, the lone reformer can get burnt out pretty quickly.</p>
<p>So how to combat this?  Dunno.  Maybe we need fewer teachers and more admins at these types of things?  I know there were some principals, AP/VPs, and maybe even a superintendent or two there this year.  What I&#8217;d like to see in future years is a more even distribution of classroom teachers and admins (and other folks in support roles, like me) taking part and bringing their support back to their individual districts.  I think that might be more beneficial in the long run.</p>
<p>How has EduCon transformed education?  It hasn&#8217;t, but I&#8217;d venture that&#8217;s an awfully heavy load &#038; potentially unfair question to pose to a single conference or event.  I think it does its part by providing a space for folks to discuss systems, structures, and practice in education in addition to the neat tech tools that seemed to bring us all together online in the first place.</p>
<p>With regard to fresh new voices, that&#8217;s another point in EduCon&#8217;s favor &#8211; anyone can apply to conduct a session, not just by invite only, as some conferences are.  And as far as I know the folks involved in the selection process, I have no reason to believe there is an agenda at work with regard to censoring certain topics or ideas that don&#8217;t fit within a specific philosophical worldview.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcy Webb</title>
		<link>http://www.apaceofchange.com/2010/01/31/exhaling-at-educon/comment-page-1/#comment-749</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcy Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damian, I always appreciate your thoughts, whether on Twitter, or here on your blog. That said, I won&#039;t be adding to the echo chamber. That is to say, I find gatherings such as EduCon comprised of the same cadre of folks from year to year - few fresh, new voices - and the same conversations. So, is it truly &quot;progressive&quot;? Not sure. Now, this is coming from one who has not attended EduCon, and the observations I&#039;ve made are two reasons why I have not attended. I trust that the converations in which you engaged Damian were genuine and enriching, and yet, beyond that, to what end if each person who attended doesn&#039;t live the courage of her convictions, takes a risk, and speaks a bit of truth to power to the status quo? It&#039;s just another conference where good conversations were had, until the next year.  So, my question is: How has EduCon transformed education?
.-= Marcy Webb&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.marcywebb.com/front-page/2010/2/9/fun-resource-for-middle-school-foreign-language.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fun Resource for Middle School Foreign Language&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damian, I always appreciate your thoughts, whether on Twitter, or here on your blog. That said, I won&#8217;t be adding to the echo chamber. That is to say, I find gatherings such as EduCon comprised of the same cadre of folks from year to year &#8211; few fresh, new voices &#8211; and the same conversations. So, is it truly &#8220;progressive&#8221;? Not sure. Now, this is coming from one who has not attended EduCon, and the observations I&#8217;ve made are two reasons why I have not attended. I trust that the converations in which you engaged Damian were genuine and enriching, and yet, beyond that, to what end if each person who attended doesn&#8217;t live the courage of her convictions, takes a risk, and speaks a bit of truth to power to the status quo? It&#8217;s just another conference where good conversations were had, until the next year.  So, my question is: How has EduCon transformed education?<br />
<span class="cluv"> Marcy Webb&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.marcywebb.com/front-page/2010/2/9/fun-resource-for-middle-school-foreign-language.html" rel="nofollow">Fun Resource for Middle School Foreign Language</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.apaceofchange.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: damian</title>
		<link>http://www.apaceofchange.com/2010/01/31/exhaling-at-educon/comment-page-1/#comment-735</link>
		<dc:creator>damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for adding more echoes to my chamber, fellas. :-)  Hoping you&#039;ll both be coming down to Philly next year; I really have no excuse, as I&#039;m only an hour train ride away.

I&#039;m slowly coming to the realization that my desire for conversation and camaraderie around these themes stems less from a desire to incorporate tech into curriculum (although I do think that&#039;s important) and more for a desire for overall reform of the educational system in this country.  The technological stuff and the attendant attitudes, I&#039;m finding, are simply aspects - microcosms, maybe? - of my larger desire for change.

Changing the US educational system - no prob; we&#039;ll do a conversation on it at EduCon 2.3. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for adding more echoes to my chamber, fellas. <img src='http://www.apaceofchange.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Hoping you&#8217;ll both be coming down to Philly next year; I really have no excuse, as I&#8217;m only an hour train ride away.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m slowly coming to the realization that my desire for conversation and camaraderie around these themes stems less from a desire to incorporate tech into curriculum (although I do think that&#8217;s important) and more for a desire for overall reform of the educational system in this country.  The technological stuff and the attendant attitudes, I&#8217;m finding, are simply aspects &#8211; microcosms, maybe? &#8211; of my larger desire for change.</p>
<p>Changing the US educational system &#8211; no prob; we&#8217;ll do a conversation on it at EduCon 2.3. <img src='http://www.apaceofchange.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: geek.teacher &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This week&#8217;s comments elsewhere (weekly)</title>
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		<dc:creator>geek.teacher &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This week&#8217;s comments elsewhere (weekly)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ben Wildeboer</title>
		<link>http://www.apaceofchange.com/2010/01/31/exhaling-at-educon/comment-page-1/#comment-720</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Wildeboer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 21:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(re: the echo-chamber) Agreed. 
It&#039;s important to be aware of the potential dangers of an echo-chamber. However, I&#039;ve heard Deborah Meier note that to drive change you need a &quot;community&quot; for support &amp; guidance. Going solo is draining and causes even the most persistent individuals to tire quickly. I have no such community at my place of work (as I imagine is true for many &quot;progressive&quot; educators). My online network has filled that space and been a source of great support and knowledge.

I&#039;ve decided that next year is definitely an &quot;Imma-goin-to-EduCon-no-matta-what&quot; year. Hopefully I&#039;ll see you there next year.
.-= Ben Wildeboer&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SustainablyDigital/~3/dn3cy2P6MFQ/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;“Typology of non-optimal video use”&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(re: the echo-chamber) Agreed.<br />
It&#8217;s important to be aware of the potential dangers of an echo-chamber. However, I&#8217;ve heard Deborah Meier note that to drive change you need a &#8220;community&#8221; for support &amp; guidance. Going solo is draining and causes even the most persistent individuals to tire quickly. I have no such community at my place of work (as I imagine is true for many &#8220;progressive&#8221; educators). My online network has filled that space and been a source of great support and knowledge.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve decided that next year is definitely an &#8220;Imma-goin-to-EduCon-no-matta-what&#8221; year. Hopefully I&#8217;ll see you there next year.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Ben Wildeboer&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SustainablyDigital/~3/dn3cy2P6MFQ/" rel="nofollow">“Typology of non-optimal video use”</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.apaceofchange.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Callahan</title>
		<link>http://www.apaceofchange.com/2010/01/31/exhaling-at-educon/comment-page-1/#comment-705</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Callahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 02:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You pretty much nailed it. As I said to a couple of people this weekend, I know that the kinds of conversations we had there this weekend are conversations that we, for the most part, just aren&#039;t having at our own schools. It&#039;s essential for us to have the chance to say the things we either can&#039;t or won&#039;t say while we&#039;re off dealing with the politics of our own jobs on a day to day basis. It&#039;s also nice to know that, even if we&#039;re all talking and blogging all the time on Twitter, we can still learn a lot from each other when we get together in person and do some seriously constructive PD.
.-= Dan Callahan&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://dancallahan.net/2010/01/31/this-weeks-comments-elsewhere-weekly-35&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This week’s comments elsewhere (weekly)&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You pretty much nailed it. As I said to a couple of people this weekend, I know that the kinds of conversations we had there this weekend are conversations that we, for the most part, just aren&#8217;t having at our own schools. It&#8217;s essential for us to have the chance to say the things we either can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t say while we&#8217;re off dealing with the politics of our own jobs on a day to day basis. It&#8217;s also nice to know that, even if we&#8217;re all talking and blogging all the time on Twitter, we can still learn a lot from each other when we get together in person and do some seriously constructive PD.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Dan Callahan&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://dancallahan.net/2010/01/31/this-weeks-comments-elsewhere-weekly-35" rel="nofollow">This week’s comments elsewhere (weekly)</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.apaceofchange.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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